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Saturday 24 January 2015

Europa Ovenmate Professional







My new kitchen toys....a giant oven.  It is 84L capacity that allow max up to 5 tray to bake at the same time.  Love its outlook as it looks quite elegant too no doubt it is really giant. Look at how it is compare to my kitchenaids artisan. 

Here is some sharing how I end up settle with this oven during oven selection.  I started my baking journey with a small oven about 30L. And it last for about 2 yrs before I give it to my MIL and upgrade it to bigger oven about 45L which is still very cheap. It is about RM300++. 2nd oven last me for quite some years until it's turning knob for timer become brittle and end up broke recently. I have to use needle nose plier to twist the timer each time I want to bake something. And my oven door no longer able to close tightly after back from door repair during warranty period.  I make up my mind to upgrade myself with a professional oven this round. 

At first, I started to look for the commercially used oven but in smallest size. I was introduced by a brand called Soner. It coz about RM2200 before negotiation. The size and capacity is about the same as this oven and it claimed that the baking results are extremely even. However, the quality of its built out look a bit cheap. It is made from Taiwan. I still hestitating whether to buy it or not but decided to give myself somemore time to search for others brand. Then, I saw another brand called Eka (Italy parts assembled in Taiwan) in the baking ingredients shop I used to go most of the time. That oven really look good on its finishing. The stainless steel look much more quality and its door feeling more solid when open/close it compare to Soner brand. Of course the price also not cheap. RM3500 before negotiation.  At that moment, deep in my thought already choose it but step back due to its price. I went to another kitchen supply shop to check for the same brand but their price even higher. Then they recommended me a brand called Unox model Anna which also cost RM3500. Before  I decided to go back to settle down with Eka brand from baking ingredients shop, I went to get some advice from a Sifu(ex-hotel chef) who currently open a baking ingredients supply shop now. He then advice me just look for brand Europa, Zanussi or Elba within price range RM1100 to 1300 is pretty enough for home based used. In case that if u plan to expand to home business, you can still buy another same model to improve productivity. 

Below is the precise learning that he shared with me. I really appreciated it and would like to share to my blog reader too.
1. We should reserved space about 1-2 inches each surrounding the oven tray during baking. In the other word, do not too greedy buy max tray size for your oven. Typically those oven(~RM1k) should able to produce even baking result if we bake it correctly. 
2. The black slightly deep tray that come with the oven is not for cookies baking. It is to collect the liquid flow out during cooking food.

After talking to him, I directly went to the electrical shop to find Euŕopa oven. They have 2 Europa model ovens, one is around 50+L capacity and another one is this 84L capacity.  I was attracted by this bigger size oven from its look first. Then I compare their power consumption. Smaller on consume 2.67kw but bigger one consume 2.4kw. I  ended up settled with this ovenmate professional. ☺. The oven come with only one set of baking tray, grill and drip tray. I purchased an additional grill so that I can bake in mutiple racks. 

I still in progress adjusting all my recipes with this new oven as all oven behave differently.  I did gain some learning from my first multi racks baking (from my first attempt failure)!


84 comments:

  1. Hi! I m considering to buy Eka Oven, and currently I m using built-in oven. Just because the function can bake 4 trays at one times, it really attracts me.
    May I know this Europa Ovenmate can bake 4 trays at one times? My built in oven when bake biscuit (max. 2 trays).... its uneven colour. Darken at side, lighter colour in middle tray. Hopes to hear from your recommendation. Thank you.

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  2. This model got support up to 5 trays but u need to purchase additional rack with about RM35-38 per rack before GST. I only tried up to 2 trays. Honestly, I still not very pro on using it yet. During CNY when i bake cookies, certain cookies i still need to rotate tray in order to make sure it is even. I didn't switch tray but rotate the inside to outside only. Result still quite satisfied,

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  3. Can I know if you have successfully adjusting your recipe on your new oven, I need some know if this oven bake evenly and what is the good and bad about this oven. I am considering buying it in few days time.

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    1. Sorry for late reply. I never adjust my recipes so far beside the need to tune the baking time and temperature a bit. To be safe, i usually start with the following the same temperature suggested in the recipe. If the outcome doesn't compromising, eg: brown too fast or too slow, i will adjust the temperature accordingly. Bear in mind that for some recipes, baking too long will make the internal of the food too dry even though we manage to get the nice golden result on the cookies or bread surface.

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  4. May I know where did u buy the oven?

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    1. Bought it from here.
      http://www.banhuat.com/option/mod_product_detail/cid/12791

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  5. Hi. May I know how much u buy it? How is the result I fee baking cake? How big cake mold can it fit in? Can it bake two cakes in once? Thanks.

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    1. Hi, i bought the oven with RM1780 (at end of year 2014). This oven has no issue baking cake so far. The biggest cake mold i use is only 9 inches diameter. I never tried to bake 2 cakes at the same time. You may be able to do it with 2 racks but you definitely need to swap the rack in the middle of the baking process. No comment on how will be the cake output. =P

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  6. Thanks for the information, it is helpfull for me

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  7. Hi, may i know the europa oven where you brought from? Because my area can't get this brand.
    Tq.
    Eunice

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    2. Bought it from here.
      http://www.banhuat.com/option/mod_product_detail/cid/12791

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  8. Hi I am currently looking for an oven. May I know the model and the size(l x w x h) of your Europa oven?? May I know if the oven has an adjustable 上下火?? May I also know if there is a fan at its back?? Thanks.

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    1. Hi, you may get the dimension and information of the oven from below URL.
      http://www.banhuat.com/option/mod_product_detail/cid/12791

      Yes, it did has 4 or 5 modes for user to adjust the heat.
      The fan is on the back of the oven but the air blow out from front of the oven. it is a counter top oven instead of build in cabinet oven .

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  9. Hi lee may, i wish to have one like you. Can this oven bake cake nicely? You still need to rotate tray while baking for cookies/pastry/bread/cake??. Tqvm for your sharing

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    1. Hi cikguzila, Sure you can have one, =).
      Yes, the oven able to bake cake nicely. I will rotate once when bake any of about, just to make sure I get evenly golden result.

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  10. 你好,我想请问你一下 你的rack35-38
    是在哪里买的?

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    1. I bought it from Tanjung Bungah, Penang from Europa distributor.
      Sales & Service
      Office : PENANG
      6L, Jalan Tanjung Tokong
      Tanjung Tokong
      10470 Penang
      Malaysia

      Tel: 04-8908262

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  11. may i know where you bought the oven?thank you.i'm planing to buy ...

    weiyen1129@hotmail.com

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    1. Here you go. But it is at Penang. Others state I have no idea.
      http://www.banhuat.com/option/mod_product_detail/cid/12791

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  12. LeeMay.. how is your Europa Oven Mate oven so far? Will like to get one multipurpose oven for myself...but no idea which to get...might to share ur experience on this oven? much you bought?

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    1. I have no bad comments so far with the oven. It did able to provide me all the baking results as i expected. I'm satisfied with the oven.
      As mentioned in above comment, I bought it at RM1780( year 2014)

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  13. Hi how much you bought ur europa oven?

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  14. Hi how much you bought ur europa oven?

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  15. Hi is this Europa nice to use? Can clean easily?

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    1. Yes. I am still very satisfied with the oven. It doesn't require much cleaning for typical baking.
      I will say it is easy to clean it.

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  16. Hi...Sorry to disturb you. I just bought the same oven but don't know how to use it. Pls help me!
    1) Cake: which tray should I use
    2) Cookies : Which tray and how many tray at a time.

    Thanking you in advance.

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    1. There are a few combination i will use.
      For single tray baking:
      For cake : I will put the tray at 2nd rack from bottom for cake( as cake tin took some height)
      For cookies/Pastries: I will put the tray middle of the rack, 3rd rack from top or bottom( as the tray for this type of baking very thin
      only)

      Then, for baking multiple trays( so far i only tried 2 trays for cookies, pastries/bread)
      I will use 2nd from top rack and 2nd from bottom rack.

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  17. Hi I just bought the same oven like you, but i have no idea how to use it... would you mind to write a blog for this topic how to use it base on your experienced? Thank you

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    1. Hi, can you specifically tell what kind of topic you would like to know? Probably I should consolidate all above comments into a page. =)

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  18. Hi I just bought the same oven like you, but i have no idea how to use it... would you mind to write a blog for this topic how to use it base on your experienced? Thank you

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    1. Hi, can you specifically tell what kind of topic you would like to know? Probably I should consolidate all above comments into a page. =)

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  19. Hi, may I know how much u bought this Europa oven? Thanks

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  20. Hi, may I know where can I order this oven?

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    1. here is where I bought it.
      http://www.banhuat.com/option/mod_product_detail/cid/12791

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  21. Hi,I'm looking for a good oven as well to bake multiple trays of cookies. Thanks for the advices about getting an oven. May I know where did u bought it and how much? Thanks

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    1. I only able to give comments on 2 trays baking with this oven.
      I bought it from
      http://www.banhuat.com/option/mod_product_detail/cid/12791

      RM 1780 ( year 2014)

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  22. Hi LeeMay, how much you pay for this 84L oven ?

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  23. How much you bought this oven? From where?
    Hows your bake at this moment? Is the oven good?

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    1. RM 1780 ( year 2014).
      From http://www.banhuat.com/option/mod_product_detail/cid/12791
      So far so good as i 'm satisfied with this oven. Personally, i like this oven. =)

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  24. Hi, may i know do you bake bread? what function you used, can bake how many tray in one time, thank you for your sharing . i bought it recently. :)

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    1. I bake using top and bottom heat with fan function. I bake 2 trays each time but required to swap the trays when the bread started to turn golden in order to get the even and nice output

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    2. Thank you for your reply :)

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  25. Hi, may i know. Can the fan switched off and on manually? Because cakes are preferably need the fan to be switched off while cookies and meringues and pavlova may prefer fan to be switched on.

    Thanks for help

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  26. Yes, there is a knob to control the heat and fan.

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  27. Hi, i am interested with this oven, thinking to get this or unox...
    Just wanna to ask you, how you feel with this oven?

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    1. I like this oven..it did give me the result i want.

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  28. Hi sis, i am planning to buy a new oven as im still considering either europa ovenmate or europa valencia. Im still newbie in baking. Is the oven good for pastry as well. How is the result?

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    1. Pastry baking shuould be alright on either one oven. This oven did output very even pastry. You may find the pastry post in my blog. =)

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  29. Hi LeeMay, may i ask if this oven suitable for grill? Roasted chicken per say. Have you ever tried other than baking purposes? Just want to know

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    1. I never try roasted chicken but i try roasted meat. It make the entire oven dirty as the reaction of the baking on the meat fat layer. Probably chicken will hv minimum impact. Butmake sure u hv a tray at bottom to hold the liquid drip out from the chicken for easy cleaning later

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  30. hi,
    can i know the siza inside the oven? L x W X H.. not the body but the inside we put the cake tin/tray. tq tq.. please..i really need to know before i buy it. tqvm LeeMay

    -rizza-

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  31. hi, may i ask how is ur Europa ovenmate professional working for you so far? any complain abt it?
    Do you do meat roasting in the oven? is it recommendable?
    May i also ask how big is the tray?
    Thanks in advance.
    evelyn

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    1. Not recommended for meat roasting. It make the oven super dirty i ternally. I regretted to try that...oven working great so far.

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    2. Biggest cookies tin tray i hv is 16 inch × 12 inch

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  32. Tq leemay for good info sharing. Am looking for oven now.. as for heat, can we select bottom only, top only and both bottom & top differently?

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    1. Yes..u hv all option..including fan only

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  33. Hi sis...i just bought the same oven. Wondering where I can purchase additional tray and grill. Please advise.

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    1. I got my grill from the oven supplier. Tray u can get it from any baking ingredient shop. My bigest tray is 16inchx 12inch

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  34. Hi Lee May!
    Just stumbled upon this blog of yours. I’m looking for an oven & this ine looks interesting. How is it so far after 3 years using it? Have you tried baking cookies with 4/5 trays at one go?

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    1. So far i only tried 2 tray in a time. Even doing this, i need to swap the tray abit in order to get really even result on my cookies

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  35. Hi LeeMay I'm using the same oven with u but I have difficulty in baking sponge cake using water bath method. May I know have u use this method to bake before?

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    1. U may use a square or round low tin tray on bottom for water. Then use aluminium wrap to cover ur cake tin in order to avoid the water sip into your cake. I did it many times without any problem so far. I use it for japanese cheese cake and some spongr cake.

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  36. Hi. Can I know what function you use for cake and cookies?

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  37. Hi. Which function do you use to bake cakes and biscuit? Any issue with the temperature?

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  38. For temperature control, it depends on how many trays u put each time. For cake baking, i will only use single tray to make sure cake is at the center. For cookies baking, i use 2 trays,level 2 and level 4. Use fan mode only if u hv more tray else u will need to monitor and swap the tray pretty fast to aboid burn.

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  39. Hi. I am using this oven but has lost the manual. Would someone please help me with the description of the baking mode? Thank you very much.

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  40. Hi Lee May,are you still using this Europa Oven Mate ? Someone is selling RM1600 for second hand do you think is worth the price. I am also using Europa oven old model Jetlook 688E. But now the company has close, very hard to find a service person to service Europa oven if got any problems.
    Looking forward to hear from you.
    Thank you.
    Regards
    Mei Foong

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    1. Sorry, Mei Foong. Just read your post. I bought it with RM1850( at year 2015) new Oven. My oven never having any issue since I bought it at 2015. I think the oven quite reliable unless we are unlucky and get a defeat unit.

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  41. Hi Lee May, do you mean to say with Europa oven if i use the fan mode, i don't need to swap the 2 trays in between baking? Thanks in advance.

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    1. I assume you are referring to baking cookies right? I still swap the trays in order to get even output.

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  42. Hi Lee may, is this oven must use fan mode? Cannot off fan mode while baking chiffon cake?

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  43. Hi Lee may, is this oven must use fan mode? Cannot off fan mode while baking chiffon cake?

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  44. Not necessary. But typocally I will use top and bottom without fan for baking any cake to avoid center of the cake erupted. If you are using steam bake then it doesnt matter with with or without fan.

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  45. Hi Lee May, i have a Europa oven passed down from my mum. I have difficulty in searching any service person in KL can service my oven. I feel wasted if just dump it away. I tried to turn it on and have bad smell. sob sob...

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  46. Hi LeeMay,

    I have the same oven as you do and currently face some problem with the oven. Do you know any technician to service this oven as I called Ban Huat, he said they don't carry this brand anymore and knows no one to service it. I reside in Kulim. Tks LeeMay!

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    1. Hi Ling. Sorry to inform that I do not have any technician contact as well. Probably u may look for some generic electrical device repair shop?

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